Buchloh: That's one of the oldest cliches around. People always have resorted to music in order to save the foundations of abstract painting. Why is your only recourse that to the metaphor of nature, like a Romantic?
Richter: No, like a painter. The reason I don't argue in "socio-political terms" is that I want to make a picture and not an ideology. It's always facticity, and not its ideology that makes a picture good.